LibDems are out in Edinburgh Central

April 26, 2007

Well done to McGellie for catching the LibDems faking data on their electoral adverts for Edinburgh Central. I already couldn’t vote for Tory and SNP; now I can’t vote LibDem either… guess who’s left? Good old labour… so Sarah Boyack is probably gonna get my vote by default.

Which reminds me: SSP, Green, and Solidarity not having candidates for the Constituency vote is a huge favour to Labour – remember that next time they slag off Tony Blair or McConnell.

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8 Responses to “LibDems are out in Edinburgh Central”

  1. Alasdair Says:

    Surely it’s better not to vote, than it is to vote Labour by default?

  2. yucca Says:

    hi alasdair,

    thanks for bringing up this point. i had realized that there was something missing from the post, but was to lazy to add it. what was missing from the post is the premise that i want to vote – to the extent that i wouldn’t even consider just voting for the regional list. so yes, as you rightly point out, by default works only if one takes it for granted that i will vote. and i do.

    there are political considerations too: i want to punish labour for a few things. lies about the case for war, cash4honours and similar dodgy stuff, and generally this attitude of thinking they can get away with more than a leading party in a mature democracy should get away with. so those are reasons for not voting labour in the regional list. on top of that, maybe the more important reason is that the third way not only hasnt really worked, but they didnt really believe in it. so they abandoned a part of the population that no left-wing party should have dare to abandon.

    but, having said all this, labour that generally speaking represent my views, and in the end i think that blair is and has been a better politician and prime minister than most. so im not, as such, anti-labour. i would have just liked to be given a chance not to vote for them this one time. i was not, so i will probably, in the end, vote for them.

    this was a bit brief as voting intentions go, but im sure you get the general idea;-)

  3. Alasdair Says:

    the default alternative when you are not satisfied with your party of choice, and no other will do, is actually to spoil your ballot. In doing so you are exercising your democratic right to vote for “none of the above”, the absence of your vote from your choice party is a ‘punishment’ without the specific endorsement of another, if you see what I mean.

    For my part I have been telling anyone who’ll listen not to vote labour on the basis of their abyssmal coalition at holyrood and their appalling and patronising campaign at this election. The presence of Blair and Brown in Scotland only serve to reinforce this position.

    My other, and better, half is actually now swaying away from her strongly held belief in a minority party toward the other main party at this election such is her concern (shared with myself) at the prospect of another labour led term of administration.

    Regards
    Alasdair

  4. yucca Says:

    Alasdair,

    I agree that not voting and voting ‘none of the above’ is very different, and that the latter is a political statement. but i dont just want to exercise my right to vote, i actually want to vote. im not sure what the difference is, maybe the following: that the sort of people that will vote none of the above in the constituency vote have a very different idea of labour – a much worse opinion of labour indeed – than i do. and that is why ‘none of the above’ would probably not exactly express my position. because i would not be distinctive enough. hopefully, on the other hand, a split vote between costituency and regional will be distinctive enough – but im not even sure about that, actually…

    im not sure i understand your final remarks: is your better half moving towards SNP from, say, the socialists or something? this is interesting. she would not be the only one doing that – i have heard of other people that are quite far from the SNP voting for the SNP this time around.

    agreed on the patronising anti- campaign that labour is doing. with regards to coalition, though, it seems as though anyone would and will form one. so can that be used as a consideration against labour? im not so sure…

  5. Alasdair Says:

    You’re right about my other, and better, half … you understand it fine 😉

    On the coalition, I think that I (and I’m sure others) are a bit peeved by the failure of this type of coalition politics – more parties get there fingers in the pies – so to speak – but then fail to do anything with them as their to busy arguing ‘internally’ with their coalition partners.

    The lab-lib coalition has failed and I think the net outcome is that both parties have been seriously tarnished … amusingly I heard someone on the radio referring to the lid dems (to their faces and with much vitriol) as the “prostitues of the scottish election”, as much to do with their willingness to jump into bed with anyone as their fluctuating policy positions 🙄

  6. yucca Says:

    agreed on the libdems, alasdair

    indeed, my edinburgh central candidates having faked the evidence is just the tip on the iceberg. the sufficient reason for not voting them is exactly, as you say, that 5 days from the elections it is still not clear who they are willing to form a coalition with – and that’s just because they are willing to go to bed with both

    on coalitions in general: yes, it is the result of PR or partial PR as we have it up here in scotland. i personally prefer the westminster system much better. but it is also true that i quite like the idea of a few old fashioned socialists and some greens getting into parliament. that’s the trade-off. but, all in all, id probably still prefer pure first past the post.

    this time, for example, i think that, if the SNP does turn out to have the amount of support that the polls are showing, they do deserve a good shot at government. and only first-past-the-post would guarantee that.

    finally, it must be said that the libdems prostituting themselves is, though, coherent. they have always been asking for PR down in london. now that they have it at least up here, it is only fair that they exploit it to the fullest. the irony is, though, that by their behaviour they are putting people off PR. and so they are wasting the chance (already almost non-existent) of getting PR down in westminister

  7. Dave Says:

    Why not vote Tory? They are as liberal as New Labour, but without current scandals.

  8. yucca Says:

    dave,

    i take it that’s a conservative complaining about the tories not being conservative enough

    so the misunderstanding is all within the right… i dont need to worry about it 😉


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