Why Teddy’s endorsement is NOT good news for Obama

January 28, 2008

The reasons why Teddy’s endorsement‘s good news for Obama are plenty and obvious. So let’s focus on how Teddy might possibly damage Obama – in no fewer than four ways, actually:

divisive: it has often been said of Hillary that she is the most divisive (yes, that includes Rudy) candidate. And so far that argument has been available to Obama, especially so that he could claim that Hillary would be a liability to the Democratic Party in November. But now that Obama has joined forces with the Kennedys, he can hardly say with a straight face that Hillary is divisive. People will sing ‘Bridge over troubled water’ back at him (if they are in a good mood, that is)

new: so far Obama has easily been the ‘new’ candidate, and the self-branded candidate of ‘change’. You don’t need to work very hard at it if you are running against Hillary CLINTON. But if all of a sudden the whole Kennedy family is on your side, then you will find yourself smelling of ’60s hair gel. Yes, you are now ‘big’ news; but it’s suddenly ‘old’ news too.

the left: somehow, Obama has so far managed to hold on, at the same time, to his inclusive message of cooperation with the Republicans, and to his status as to the left of Clinton (which means, for example, Edwards’ votes if that scumbag drops out or his delegates if he doesn’t). But now that he’s got the Kennedys on his side, a lot of the left will have to admit to his belonging to the establishment. Yes, Kennedy means ‘liberal’ – but does it mean ‘left’? I mean JFK and ‘left’ in the same sentence?

overshadowed: the way in which Hillary risks being overshadowed by Bill, Obama now might have to leave much of the spotlight to Teddy for the next few days (and SuperTuesday is just around the corner, a week away). Obama breaths spotlight. Without it, he no longer is. Watch out, Barack Hussein.

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17 Responses to “Why Teddy’s endorsement is NOT good news for Obama”

  1. 205guy Says:

    Did you notice that Hillary said, “endorsements are no big deal” in an election, right after the Kennedys endorsement of Obama ? That is why she is collecting as many as she can. Also, when is the Party going to slap her down for going into Michigan and Florida against Party rules?
    I don’t agree that the Kennedy’s endorsement will focus attention on Obama leaning to the Left. He is more Left than Hillary, so he can just use the magic (it is still there) of the Kennedy name for a boost. Teddy will fade back into the Senate and not hurt the Obama surge.

    Think about this; I would consider voting for Obama over John McCain if they end up being the candidates. I am a conservative who votes Republican most of the time.

  2. yucca Says:


    I don’t agree that the Kennedy’s endorsement will focus attention on Obama leaning to the Left.

    I was actually arguing the opposite, that the left will suddenly find that Obama ain’t left enough


    Teddy will fade back into the Senate and not hurt the Obama surge.

    yeah, i thought of that too, but then SuperTuesday is only days away – its too soon, in a way.


    I would consider voting for Obama over John McCain if they end up being the candidates. I am a conservative who votes Republican most of the time.

    on what grounds? that mac isn’t conservative enough?

  3. 205guy Says:

    McCain is too old to lead the Party. I respect the man and believe he is a real American hero, but 5 years in a prisoner of war camp will f*** you up. He also has a temper that not everyone has seen yet.

  4. yucca Says:

    ronald reagan was 70 when he started. and that was 30 years ago. relatively speaking, mccain is today much younger than reagan was then

  5. 205guy Says:

    Correct, but McCain does not look vigorous like Reagan. He has had cancer and carefully hides one side of his face from view when around the camera. Not the right man to lead the Party. Hey, how about a post on my blog.

  6. yucca Says:

    come on… are you tellin me that YOU will choose Obama over MaCain because he “does not look vigorous” and “He has had cancer and carefully hides one side of his face from view when around the camera”? or are you just predicting that ENOUGH people will not vote for him because of that? the latter might be; the former i dont think its a good enough reason


    Hey, how about a post on my blog.

    do you mean i write a post for your blog? interesting! what’s your blog? link?

  7. 205guy Says:

    Either a comment or a post. Comment on some of my political stuff. Try Vince Jackson As I See It

    You seem to like McCain. You must be in Arizonia? I did not say I would vote for Obama. Just that I would consider him under certain circumstances. McCain is not a true conservative. I prefer Romney, but I am not sure he can win nationally. Really I am undecided.

  8. yucca Says:

    I’m in Edinburgh Scotland actually 😉

    yeah, in a way i like mccain – it is definitely my favourite Republican, but i would never support nor vote a Republican.

    Im an Hillary supporter, as you can tell from the blog. and even though mccain might be the most dangerous opponent in november, i hope he makes it

  9. 205guy Says:

    WOW ! I am amazed that the Scots are so interested in “our” election. I guess this election has world wide implications. I thought you were a Yank for sure, living in Arizonia (yucca) and were probably a conservative.
    Now I think you are probably an over 40 female (I am not being mean, just wondering) who likes the thought of socialism. How far wrong am I?

    Please read DickMorris.com before you decide the Clintons are too wonderful. Morris worked for them for years and he knows them all too well.

  10. yucca Says:

    yes, britain is pretty interested in your elections. they very often make first item of news on the guardian, the bbc, or channel4.

    no, im a liberal man in my twenties, actually. ill go and check this dickmorris.com, then

    whats the connection between arizona and yucca?

  11. nihil Says:

    “Now I think you are probably an over 40 female (I am not being mean, just wondering) who likes the thought of socialism. How far wrong am I?”

    Pretty far away 😀 But I’ll let Yucca/Nullo clear that up.

    And about endorsements: screw the Kennedys, I shat bricks when goddamn KERRY gave his touch-of-death to Obama. I expected his next speech to feature a bucket of pig blood falling on him.

    If Barack survived that one, he can deal with the old dynasty; moreover, I’m told Kennedy is especially idolized by the Hispanic community, which so far was Obama’s toughest audience.

  12. yucca Says:

    hi nihil,

    yeah, heard that one about teddy and the hispanic community too, just tonight on channel4. but tonight’s california new poll – taken ’till yesterday – still has clinton 17 points ahead. pretty solid, but the poll was probably taken too early to say.

    anyway, obama is takin on board lots of losers. well see if he can turn them around

    ciao,
    a 40-something woman from arizona 😉

  13. 205guy Says:

    Sorry old bean (do you still say that) I get mental pictures of folks I converse with and sometimes I am wrong. Yes, Teddy K is supposed to help in CA where the Hispanic vote is a big deal; over 30% ( the Kennedy name is still important in some circles).

    Some yuccas grow in Arizona (Your avatar)

  14. James Stanhope Says:

    Ted Kennedy’s endorsement of Obama seems to have persuaded older Democratic women to vote Obama instead of Hillary, if the anecdotal evidence provided through Yucca’s link (in his post prior to this one) to Ben Smith’s blog on Politico.com is a reliable sign. If so, Ted Kennedy’s endorsement would be a net plus for Obama, because older Democratic women were Hillary’s stronghold. Otherwise, Ted Kennedy’s supposed “liabilities” won’t be a decisive negative for Obama, because Ted Kennedy’s personal life and supposed leftism are probably issues too distant from the kind of voters, whom Obama now wants to attract, to deter them from voting for Obama.

  15. James Stanhope Says:

    One further point on Ted Kennedy’s “leftism” making Obama seem too “Establishment”-oriented for far-left-oriented Democratic voters — such voters might feel that they have no one else to support if they want even a moderate progressive in the White House, comparable to the relationship of the Christian Far Right with the GOP (Pat Robertson endorsed Giuliani!). And in fact, my impressions from reading far-left blogs suggest that such voters do in fact feel they have no one left to support except Obama if they want any kind of progressive in the White House.

  16. Yucca Says:

    @205guy:

    didnt know this thing about yucca-arizona… now i really MUST support McCain 😉

    on CA and Hispanics: I guess we’ll have to wait and see how the CA polls unravel in the next few days. its seems to me that Hill’s advantage is quite safe, but with so many delegates up for grabs, whatever obama can gain might make the difference (i have the impression california is NOT ‘winner take all’, right?)

  17. Yucca Says:

    Hi James,

    On the issue of older women, that Ben Smith post was really quite funny, but obviously I don’t know how reliable. It might also be a question of generations: 40 to 60 with Hillary and Bill, past 60 with Teddy. or something like it.

    My feeling is that Teddy’s endorsement is not going to overturn any of the big states or anything; but it might be REAL important if it comes down to the number of delegates. and that’s exactly what it looks like now.

    On the far left, I think you might be on to something – and I have the same impression by looking around. I can’t really explain it, but Obama does appear to be considered a lot to the left of Hillary, and Teddy might not really change that one. It is possible that some voters that would have switched from Edwards for Super Tuesday will now stick to Edwards. And that maybe some voters will be put off alltogether. But i actually accept that i might be overestimatin the Kennedys here 😉


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